In the State of the Union address, President Obama called for the enactment of sensible gun regulations. This should be the rallying cry for everyone concerned about gun violence across our nation.
I am a candidate for the Virginia House of Delegates in the 34th District because our representative does not vote for the values, the priorities, or the interests of this district. In fact, she has an A rating and takes her lead from the NRA. In fact, just this week our delegate voted to ban the disclosure of information about concealed handgun permit holders. It’s time to for this to stop.
We must demand sensible gun safety regulations including universal background checks, limits on high-capacity magazines, and meaningful laws against gun trafficking. I support our second amendment rights, and believe these are solutions we can all support.
Gun safety is a personal issue for me. My brother was murdered by a robber using a handgun likely bought off the street. Thousands of other families across America have been victimized by gun violence. We cannot be silent; we cannot stand on the sidelines. Act now. Let your voice be heard. Contact our Virginia lawmakers. Demand that they enact sensible gun regulations.
mary comerford
12:53 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
It's time to demand serious gun control and elect representatives who represent our values. The GOP General Assembly's irresponsible votes to allow the sale of unlimited guns and allow guns in bars and cars has led to countless deaths. Now is the time to press for change!
Bob
1:25 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Hooray for our delegate voting against disclosure. Stop being so knee jerk about news when statistics show a) compared to other means of injury and demise, gun danger is extremely low for any person who does not partake in a criminal lifestyle, and b) that if guns were banned then they would still be out on the street. Sensible gun regulations already exist. That said - I am truly sorry about your brother. That is horrible.
Dave Webster
1:46 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
There is no reason for the names and addresses of concealed weapons permit holders to be public. Those who hold such permits shouldn't have to live in fear of some newspaper publishing their names and addresses. Is Kathleen Murphy in favor of harassing law abiding citizens? If you don't like the concealed weapons permit law, then get it repealed Kathleen. Don't treat those who have such permits as pariahs who should have their names and addresses put on the front page of the local newspapers.
Ivy Main
2:20 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
I'm with you, Kathleen. The NRA thinks the answer to gun violence is more guns, but most of us don't want to live in a society where everyone has to be armed to be safe, and it's a nut's fantasy that somehow we would BE safe if everyone walked around with a gun. It's long past time for sensible restrictions. Every buyer should go through a background check and take a gun safety course; every gun should be registered with the police; and no one should have access to an automatic weapon or a semi-automatic that can fire more than a few shots without reloading.
Tyler Durden
9:07 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Drinking the state media Kool-Aid Ivy? Point out one, just one, member of the NRA that has committed a mass murder. You can't. These monsters are all drugged up psycho's.
You should check out the FBI crime stats which states that every year 2.5 million people defend themselves with a legally owned firearm but the facts don't matter do they Ivy, you just want do SOMETHING, ANYTHING, to get the mean old NRA.
mary comerford
3:14 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
GOP Del. Comstock has voted for the sale of unlimited handguns and supported concealed weapons in bars and cars. Virginia's voters want a change -- and Kathleen Murphy is the responsible choice to replace her as the 34th Dist. Delegate to the Virginia House. Let's support Murphy. Comstock is bankrolled by the extreme Cuccinelli conservatives threatening our state.
Dave Webster
3:18 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
What's wrong with a concealed weapon in a car? Should people who have concealed weapons permits be forced to walk everywhere?
Bob
3:36 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Look - I am generally very liberal, and think our current AG is an idiot. And if I thought that banning / regulating guns would make a statistical difference in our safety I would be in favor of it.
But the fact is that you all pay no attention to statistics, and you pay no attention to the history of civilization and the reason we have a 2nd amendment in the first place. So for those reasons - I really have to disagree with your knee jerk, emotional reactions that will a) not make any one person safer (statistically speaking), and b) will be regretted at some point in the (probably/hopefully very far) future of the USA's history to come.
Bob
3:56 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
To Dave Webster's comment - that is the exact reason for this new law in VA. This information WAS public and no one had a problem with that. But then - possibly for circulation reasons? - a paper hung these law abiding citizens out to dry en masse in front of their neighbors. Two people on my friend's street in Yorktown Heights, NY had concealed carry permits with a map right to their front door! I am guessing that suddenly they are pariahs in some of their previously friendly neighbors' eyes. If there was a way to create a law that said "newspapers can't publish this information en masse" - I am guessing the VA legislature may have happily gone that route instead of making the information completely unavailable.
Liv Violette
4:27 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
If the right to bear arms, even at the cost of millions of innocents, is considered an inalienable right with no restrictions or due diligence required of potential buyers, what do we do when nuclear weapons and drones go on sale? I'm afraid the world going to learn a deadly lesson unless counties, states and countries talk seriously about disarmament. As usual, the devil is in the details and as far as I am concerned, Kathleen Murphy's stance on gun control is a shot into a reasonable and sane direction.
Kathy Keith
5:10 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Liv, "Millions of Innocents"??? Where do you get your statistics? More people die from accidental overdose of prescription medicines. Are you going to ban medicine?
Liv Violette
5:23 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Ah! How I await the joy to be comprehended!
If the right to bear arms, even at the cost of millions of innocents, is considered an inalienable right with no restrictions or due diligence required of potential buyers, what do we do when nuclear weapons and drones go on sale? I'm afraid the world is going to learn a deadly lesson unless counties, states and countries talk seriously about disarmament. As usual, the devil is in the details and as far as I am concerned, Kathleen Murphy's stance on gun control is a shot into a reasonable and sane direction.
Tyler Durden
9:10 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
"I await the joy to be comprehended" -- make some sense and you will be. You are just incoherently babbling.
Bob
10:50 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
We're not talking about nuclear weapons nor drones and those weapons cannot be put on the same spectrum. They have little in common in terms of their usefulness in self defense or in their capabilities as weapons.
On a side note - I firmly believe that drones are an immoral weapon as they are currently being used in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen.
mary comerford
5:31 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
The number of shooting deaths is expected to rise to 32,929 in 2015, according to a 10-year average based on Centers for Disease Control Data. By contrast, the number of traffic deaths is expected to continue its FALL and decline to 32,036 thanks to advances in safety technology.
http://autos.aol.com/article/gun-deaths-will-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015-study-says/
Dave Webster
5:41 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
"Shooting deaths" includes suicides does it not Mary?
Maggie Rheinstein
6:40 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Suicides are very painful. I know from personal experience when my nephew shot himself with a gun made readily available by his grandfather. The reason why my nephew is dead is because there was a loaded weapon readily available. Without a gun there wouldn't have been a death and they all count, whether murders, accidents or suicides.
Tyler Durden
8:54 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Sorry Maggie, he would have found a way. The gun was just his tool of choice.
Dave Webster
6:47 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
They surely do all count. I just think the phrase "shooting death" is misleading if, in fact, it includes suicides. When one thinks of "shooting deaths" one thinks of murder usually.
Benjamin
10:10 pm on Thursday, February 14, 2013
Since we lead the world in the number of firearms per capita, one would think, according to the logic of some, that we would be the safest country in the world. Yet we lead with way more murders and accidental deaths due to firearms than any of the other industrially advanced countries and quite a few not so advanced countries.
For the most part, US states and localities with tougher gun laws – such as New York state and New York City – have both lower homicide rates and lower suicide rates than other places in the US.
As for the method of choice of suicides – firearms! About 52 percent of American suicides occur using a firearm – 57 percent for men.
It seems to me that our current approach to the problem of gun-related deaths and injuries is flawed. We need to rethink and reassess.
The measures Kathleen Murphy is proposing are really quite moderate and make a lot of sense to me. Ben T.
Tyler Durden
8:11 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Your statements are simply wrong. Please post your sources.
FBI Data:
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/table-1
More guns = less crime.
Chicago: more murders than our troops in Afghanistan:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html
People are going to commit suicide. They have a mental illness and unfortunately do not get the help they need before it is too late. They want to end their lives, they will find a way. Further, why should I disarm putting myself at a disadvantage to defend myself and my family because someone else ended their life with a firearm. That makes no sense.
History shows that 'your', not our, philosophy of addressing gun-related deaths is flawed per the FBI data cited above. We tried a semi-automatic rifle ban and it did not do anything to reduce crime. The fact is once the law expired violent crime continued to decrease.
Banning high-capacity magazines is a distraction. One can always carry more magazines. Background checks for personnel sales of firearms leads to confiscation, which is the ultimate goal of the left. It always has been.
'moderate'? Her proposals are a clear path to confiscation and that is unconstitutional,, radical and dangerous.
If any proposals to reduce gun crime would actually work I would support them but people have freewill and will do what they want.
Tyler Durden
10:36 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Got to wonder if this little boy would still have a father if Chicago had not banned firearms.
I know what you'll say, if guns were banned the bad guys would have never been able to do this but, these are murderers, they care not about any gun laws.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/02/13/indiana-guardsman-gunned-down-while-shielding-2-year-old-son/
Liv Violette
9:42 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Bob
You seem like a very thoughtful man so I feel inspired to more clearly
state my case to you.
If we are in agreement that countries should be restricted from
acquiring dangerous weapons that could eventually harm us,why would
we turn around and allow a man down the street to own a gun strong enough to kill
everyone in our neighborhood?
Bob
12:32 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I look at it from two angles - 1) again I say - chances of my being injured/killed by a firearm are very low compare to all the other ways I might be harmed. I don't believe in outlawing guns so that we "feel" safer but are not significantly safer and that is what I think is happening right now - a drive to "feel" safer.
2) Everyone has their "zombie apocalypse" scenario these days. I have a few in mind in which I would like to have significantly more firepower than the other guy. A country-wide Katrina/Sandy/Meteor type of thing - especially something that shut electricity down across the country or the East Coast for months (e.g., Carrinton Event of 1859). In that case - there would suddenly be a ton of people who really wish they had a powerful gun. But on that day - no one will be able to get one that doesn't already have one. And if your neighbor on your left has a handgun and your neighbor on your right has an AR15 - which person's livingroom would you rather camp out in?
Call me paranoid but that I my right as an American - fostered by a trumped up "War on Terrorism" :)
Tyler Durden
1:07 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
1) A country-wide Katrina/Sandy/Meteor type of thing:
Don't forget the most likely of all "zombie apocalypse" .... complete collapse of our economic system
2) my right as an American - fostered by a trumped up "War on Terrorism"
I am absolutely amazed at how many people do not understand the "War on Terrorism" has morphed into "War on Americans".
Tyler Durden
1:36 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
"zombie apocalypse" scenario:
"Massive Explosive Sonic Booms ..... Nature Magazine says that the blast was even more powerful than North Korea’s recent nuclear test"
http://www.infowars.com/massive-explosive-sonic-booms-caught-on-camera/
Tyler Durden
10:10 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington
First President of the United States
Liv Violette
10:36 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Oh and for those of you in this comment thread who feel strongly that the second amendment is protecting them from tyranny, think again. The US government already has you out gunned (they have helicopters that can shower bullets one per every square inch covering your entire house) and out smarted, the Patriot Act has already stripped many of your liberties.
Tyler Durden
10:43 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Totally agree. We now live in a police state where the government kills American citizens at will, without trial. Drones, domestic spying technology deployed everywhere, simulated invasions in our inner cities by the military. The infringements on our liberty is in full force. All the more reason for the people to be armed. Our future is very dim indeed.
Liv Violette
10:41 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
The only thing that we can truly do to protect ourselves is to stay as informed as we can and be aware of hired guns paid to harass and mislead us on the internet. My vote goes to Kathleen Murphy! Go Kathleen!
Tyler Durden
10:50 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
"be aware of hired guns paid to harass and mislead us on the internet." -- lame. Anyone that makes a strong argument must be paid. Surely gun owners could not be intelligent, they must be paid to make their arguments.
Anyone that disagrees with anyone on the left must be demonized. That is called fascism..
Go ahead, put your life in the Dear Leader's hands, you will not last long in a crisis situation.
anne gruner
11:43 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Getting back to el. DComstock, her vote this week against the disclosure of handgun permit holders was MAINSTREAM and sailed through the House (76-23) (and the Senate (32-8), on a broad bipartisan basis. The bill was supported by many Democrats in both houses, including Senators B. Favola, A. Ebban, D. Mardsen, and Chap Peterson. As for Comstock's "A" NRA rating, Sen. Mark Warner and Sen Jim Webb have had long-standing NRA "A" ratings. On this issue, it is Kathleen Murphy who is clearly out of the mainstream in Virginia, not Del. Comstock. The public disclosure of those with concealed carry permits is a horrible idea, even rejected by most Democrats. Ask the person in New York, whose house was broken into after his address was disclosed and his two handguns (in a safe) were stolen his two permits taken, his house ransacked. Ask policemen and judges who routinely anger dangerous criminals and fear for their safety. Moreover, such information is readily available if needed by law enforcement officers. If we're concerned about deaths of innocents, why don't we address the mental health issues and the grotesque culture of violence promulgated by Hollywood and glorified by the media. Comstock's vote this week was mainstream, like it or not.
anne gruner
11:46 am on Friday, February 15, 2013
Getting back to Del. Comstock, her vote this week against the disclosure of handgun permit holders was MAINSTREAM and sailed through the House (76-23) and the Senate (32-8), on a broad bipartisan basis. The bill was supported by many Democrats in both houses, including Senators B. Favola, A. Ebban, D. Mardsen, and Chap Peterson. As for Comstock's "A" NRA rating, Sen. Mark Warner and Sen Jim Webb have had long-standing NRA "A" ratings. On this issue, it is Kathleen Murphy who is clearly out of the mainstream in Virginia, not Del. Comstock. The public disclosure of those with concealed carry permits is a horrible idea, even rejected by most Democrats. Ask the person in New York, whose house was broken into after his address was disclosed and his two handguns (in a safe) were stolen his two permits taken, his house ransacked. Ask policemen and judges who routinely anger dangerous criminals and fear for their safety. Moreover, such information is readily available if needed by law enforcement officers. If we're concerned about deaths of innocents, why don't we address the mental health issues and the grotesque culture of violence promulgated by Hollywood and glorified by the media? Comstock's vote this week was mainstream, like it or not.
House Vote: http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?131+vot+HV0813+SB1335
Senate Vote: http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?131+vot+SV0527SB1335+SB1335
P. Scott
2:19 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
I feel Comstock's votes on gun issues in lockstep with the NRA are not reflective of the 34th district. I gathered signatures on a gun reform petition last weekend in Great Falls. Some people signed; others did not. But everyone felt something needed to be done! They love Great Falls and they want to feel safe in the this community without having to arm themselves. The fear and paranoia that the head of the NRA, LaPierre (and by extension Comstock) promote is not wanted in Great Falls! Kathleen Murphy shows sensitivity and moderation to both sides of this issue and she is the right choice for delegate.
T Ailshire
2:47 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
Unfortunately, too many believe "something needed to be done" - EVEN IF IT IS WRONG.
"Do something" is not always the right answer. I can't comment on your petition, as I didn't see it, but none of the proposals I have seen so far would have done a thing to stop Aurora, VT, or Newtown assailants. The answer is not to hogtie those who didn't do it.
Rob Jackson
3:31 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Kathleen Murphy is a dangerous candidate. She wants to disclose information about gun owners because she doesn't like guns. Yet, I cannot imagine she would support making information about men getting vasectomies or women getting abortions public. Why the difference? How about leaving people alone to make their decisions in private, be they about reproduction or gun ownership? The law should have a preference for privacy.
And how about some of our good Democratic representatives who have A ratings from the NRA? I cannot imagine Ms. Murphy didn't vote for Mark Warner because he is a gun rights supporter. We need one set of rules folks. Not "heads, I win; tails you lose." There is something deep and dishonest here.
Tyler Durden
3:39 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
"There is something deep and dishonest here." -- The left never wants to talk about the facts and by proxy they are not being honest. As P. Scott stated, they want to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING because they think it will make them "feel" safer. Reality be dammed. If we are going to do something let's do something that will make a difference. Up to this point I have not heard any policy statements that would accomplish a nickel's worth of safety.
Jill Cook
6:27 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
Sadly, Ms Murphy has begun to define herself as one who will rely on divisive, inflammatory and, most importantly, misleading comments about her opponent to make a point. Barbara Comstock has a record of sensible solutions to many issues, of which gun control is just one.
Ms. Murphy, however, seems to think “gun control” is a good excuse for invading the privacy of law-abiding Commonwealth citizens. Should this “disclosure” include the names of women who carry a firearm as protection against an abusive ex-husband? Is Murphy next going to demand that the Commonwealth release every citizen's tax returns? How about the personal details of everyone who applies for welfare benefits or visits a state health clinic? What is the legitimate purpose of releasing the names of Commonwealth citizens who are obeying the law and applying for a concealed carry permit? Perhaps Ms Murphy’s will explain at some point.
Tyler Durden
7:47 pm on Friday, February 15, 2013
RE: "What is the legitimate purpose of releasing the names of Commonwealth citizens who are obeying the law "
-Surely you know this is a tactic to try and "shame" law abiding citizens to succumb to their will.
I too wonder why Mrs. Murphy posts such a statement then goes into hiding. Is she too good to engage the public directly.
Greg Brandon
9:00 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Barbara Comstock's Republican friends on the House Militia, Police & Public Safety Comm. on a partisan vote (15 Reps voted Yea; 6 Dems voted Nay) held on Feb. 8, completely re-wrote Sen Mark Obenshain's (R) SB 1335.
On Jan 29, Obenshain's original SB 1335 passed on a near-unanimous vote HOWEVER, his bill was to provide that "Upon receipt of a written request for confidentiality by a person protected by a protective order the [concealed weapon] permit shall withhold from public disclosure any information indicating the permit was issued to the protected person, including all personal identifying information contained in the protected person’s permit application."
As an example, a woman who has a court-ordered protective order against her abusive ex-husband and possesses a concealed weapon permit because the details of the permit would not be publicly disclosed. Absolutely, we should do as much as we can to protect battered and abuse women.
So, what happened when this "sensible gun safety regulations" reached the House? It was re-written so that anyone who has a concealed weapon permit does not have personal information revealed to the public. As currently enacted, § 18.2-308 requires that only the permit holder's SSN is withheld.
In response to this partisan House amendment, SB 1335 went from "sensible" to controversial. This is a diversion from reaching consensus on reasonable gun violence prevention measures. Well played, House Republicans.
Greg Brandon
9:14 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a Vice Chair on the Dranesville District Democratic Committee. Just so everyone knows, Jill Cook is the Chairman of the Dranesville Republican Committee.
Given that the NRA and the Gun Owners of America are headquartered in Fairfax County, are there any employees of those two lobbying arms of the gun industry who are commenting in this thread and might might want to disclose something? It would be the proper thing to do. Might take a little courage, though.
Tyler Durden
8:54 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
RE: "anyone who has a concealed weapon permit does not have personal information revealed to the public" - Exactly as it should be.This would be an encroachment on my right to privacy.
The only reason the radical left wants this information made public is to intimidate and shame legal gun owners into compliance with their radical world view.
Rob Jackson
9:14 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Why is it any one's business who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon? We need more privacy in society today, not less. Publicizing information about gun owners is about an attempt to intimidate them or "shame" them. Owning a gun is a right held by most people, It's no different than someone else exercising their right to have a vasectomy or an abortion. You wouldn't want their names publicized. Nor would I. But now we have a candidate who wants to pick and chose what information is available. That is just plain scary.
Kathleen Murphy is a dangerous radical, completely out of step with Fairfax County. Most people here respect their neighbor's privacy. She also attacked the integrity of her neighbors. In 2011, she didn't like the questions asked and not asked at the McLean Citizens Association's candidates' night, even though they were vetted by a representative of both parties and selected by Peggy Fox (except for the first set of candidates (state senate) that I handled until Peggy arrived. So she attacks the integrity of the MCA and me as its president at the time. We were never attacked by other candidates or their supporters - Dave Hunt, Margi Vanderhye, Pamela Danner, or Barbara Comstock. Agree or disagree with those candidates, they respected their neighbors. The current candidate of the Democratic Party does not.
Bob
10:49 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Rob - as someone who does not want any more stringent restrictions on firearms than exist already I can agree with your comments until this sentence: "It's no different than someone else exercising their right to have a vasectomy or an abortion."
There is no point in having a discussion if people can't be objective. There is clearly a material difference between one of your neighbors walking around with a gat under their jacket and their having gotten a vasectomy. I understand that the former can be of concern. But here is what I ask of the people who are concerned... stop letting crime dramas, Nancy Grace, and the 24 hour news cycle form your opinion of the world because you will fear EVERYTHING that is not completely familiar. Rely on statistics to make informed decisions rather than fear. Also - if you go and look at YouTube postings by people demonstrating various firearms (and there are a lot of them) you will find people who seem exceptionally sober and measured - not crazy monster truck driving Cooters from Dukes of Hazzard.
Bob
9:47 pm on Sunday, February 17, 2013
Well, it took courage to admit this but I am paid $500k/year to seek out obscure blog posts that practically no one reads just so I can speak out against honest people trying to make the world a better place. Whew - glad I got that off my chest! Lol
Tyler Durden
8:46 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Typical leftist, Saul Alensky tactics. If someone has a differing point of view they must be intimidated and shamed into compliance. The left cannot stand the fact that there are rational people that can make intelligent arguments defending their human rights, and protected rights under the constitution, without being paid. They just cannot handle it so they resort to radical intimidation tactics.
Someone, anyone, name one mass murder that was a member of the NRA. I'm sure the left has looked long and hard for that person but to my knowledge that person does not exist.
I am not a paid member of any pro 2nd Amendment organization. Is your position with the Democratic party a paid position? Might take some 'courage' to disclose that.
People like you scare me.
Greg Brandon
9:58 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Yea, sure, a local party committee member a paid position. Laughable.
There is a big difference between *personal identifying information shall not be withheld from public disclosure* and publicizing the names of concealed weapons permit holders. Why are you jumping to conclusions about this issue?
Frankly, the marketing departments of the NRA and GOA should welcome the publicly available knowledge of gun ownership.
Rob, Rob, Rob. Kathleen Murphy is hardly evil. Nor is she a dangerous radical. In fact, I happen to know that before Newtown, she wanted to reach out to NRA leadership to find common ground. This is true! I suggested to her that the NRA might not be open to common ground finding. Their post-Newtown behavior supports my opinion.
Kathleen Murphy has the full support of members of the local Democratic Committee. They are your neighbors and they believe Kathleen is an excellent candidate to unseat Barbara Comstock. We are not evil or radical, Rob. We're just Democrats.
Bob
11:02 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Hmmm... you said there is a difference between "not be withheld and publicizing" and I agree. Are you not familiar with what happened in NY with the publishing of every single person's name and address who had a concealed weapons permit? So Virginia very prudently reacted. And you want to know why? Because either for increasing news circulation or for publish shaming reasons, the genie is out of the bottle on what is going to happen with this information. Look at what is happening in Maine. Another newspaper trying to do the same thing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/us/maine-uproar-over-request-for-gun-permit-data.html?ref=firearms&_r=0
Bob
11:04 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
btw - when I say "every single person" - it was within a limited area of NY - not the whole state. As I said earlier - it included High Ridge Rd Yorktown Heights, NY which happens to be where my non-permit-holder friend lives.
Tyler Durden
10:45 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
RE: "Yea, sure, a local party committee member a paid position. Laughable."
Very condescending but I would not expect anything more from a Democratic.
I note that you directed the bulk of your response to Rob by name, so you concede on my arguments?
Tyler Durden
10:55 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
RE: "FULL DISCLOSURE: I'm a Vice Chair on the Dranesville District Democratic Committee."
Oh I get it now. Murphy will not engage the public directly, even after posting here, so she sends our her henchmen. She must see us as the unwashed masses of which she could never speak to as we are but mere proletarians yet she wants to rule over us.
She can't even defend her own blog post; pathetic!
Rob Jackson
11:14 am on Monday, February 18, 2013
Greg, Kathleen Murphy is dangerous and seemingly dishonest. Murphy states "she [Comstock] has an A rating and takes her lead from the NRA." Well, Senator Mark Warner also has an A rating from the NRA. Source: WaPo. How does Candidate Murphy feel about our senior senator? Either an A rating is a fair campaign issue or it's not. Would Murphy support a primary challenge to Warner since he's a Second Amendment supporter? Of course not. It's only wrong for a GOP candidate to have an A rating.
"There is a big difference between *personal identifying information shall not be withheld from public disclosure* and publicizing the names of concealed weapons permit holders. Why are you jumping to conclusions about this issue?" GIve me a break. If personal identifying information is available about gun owners, concealed permit holders, vasectomy patients, abortion patients, what stops someone from publicizing it? Absolutely nothing.
This is playing games. Privacy is important in all aspects of life. If you can get information about someone owning guns, you can publish it in the paper, on the Internet, on the radio. You can picket their homes. You can harass them at work. You can break into their homes. It's clear Candidate Murphy doesn't like guns, doesn't like gun owners and wants to make personal information about them public.
It's important to protect the privacy rights of even those we disagree with, IMO.
T Ailshire
2:40 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I am truly sorry for your loss. However, while I sympathize with the loss of your brother, I ask that you please explain how any of the current proposals would have prevented a *criminal* from obtaining and using a handgun in the commission of a violent crime.
None of the proposals I've seen in the past few months address the fact that criminals don't submit to background checks, and they don't obtain concealed-handgun permits. In fact, they sometimes STEAL firearms from those law-abiding citizens whose names and addresses are published by some do-gooder who thinks s/he has a "right" to know what personal property I own.
I caution you -- northern Virginians who have put on their blinders and run primarily on platforms calling for more control of law-abiding citizens have not done well. I hope you have more to contribute than attempting to turn positives into negatives..
Kris Gregory
5:38 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
I'd like to support Kathleen Murphy's sensible position on gun violence prevention. Here are statistics from the Virginia State Police based on the 100,000 guns recovered by 200 police departments in the Commonwealth between 1993 to August 2010. More than 14,000 of these 100,000 guns recovered by various Commonwealth police departments during a wide range of investigations had high-capacity magazines.
In 1998 a noticeable drop in the number of guns recovered by police departments began in the Commonwealth, and it continued with 2004 being the year with the lowest number of guns recovered (9%) during that period. Then it started increasing again reaching the highest number (20%) in 2010.
In 1997, 944 handguns were seized with large capacity magazines. In 2004, 452 handguns were seized with large capacity magazines. In 2009, the last full year for which the Virginia state police had data, 986 handguns with large capacity magazines were seized. My source is the Washington Post article on January 13, 2013, titled "High-capacity magazines saw drop during ban, data indicate".
By definition the police investigate people who break the law, not law-abiding citizens who hunt, target shoot, or are responsible gun owners. Remember, we lost 2 excellent police officers here in Fairfax County at the Sully police sub-station because their murderer had an assault weapon and even the fastest police sharpshooter in the world can't respond as quickly.
T Ailshire
5:53 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Hmmm. You bring up two unrelated points.
Of course there was a drop; larger-capacity magazines were illegal to manufacture/purchase from 1994-2004. To have any significance, this statistic would have to be accompanied by crime-rate statistics. "Recovered" tells us NOTHING about how/why these firearms were involved in the investigation.
Second, you point out the 2006 shooting, which is irrelevant to current proposals. How would any of the recently proposed laws would have stopped the shooter at the Sully station -- an 18-year-old with several (also quoting the Washington Post) firearms on his person?
Bob
6:10 pm on Monday, February 18, 2013
Seizures of guns with high capacity magazines... Not sure what conclusion can be drawn from that other than that there were seizures of guns with high capacity magazines.
As far as Sully station goes - that was a horrible incident.
mary comerford
2:27 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
GOP Del. Barbara Comstock supports unlimited sales of handguns and supports allowing concealed weapons in bars and cars. We deserve better representation.
Tyler Durden
2:40 pm on Tuesday, February 19, 2013
So the Constitution be dammed, as long as it is dammed to your likening. That is called fascism.
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"
Take note of "SHALL not be infringed". Your comments most definitely infringe upon my right to protect myself and my family regardless of where I am or how many firearms can be purchased by any law abiding citizen.
Rick Nagel
1:11 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
To the Editor:
I have been following the blog and most recently the letter to the editor regarding Kathleen Murphy’s blog advocating sensible gun safety regulations, including universal background checks, limits on high capacity magazines and penalties for gun trafficking. This was a measured and responsible call for action on serious issues. Her comment on the recent disclosure legislation I believe was in line with concerns we all share over gun safety, no matter how hard others try to skew her words. I would like to point out that our current Delegate, Barbara Comstock votes the NRA line and has their A rating, which is great for the NRA but bad for the safety of our families.
I strongly believe that Kathleen Murphy will be a great advocate for our community and am eager to support her campaign for Virginia House of Delegates.
Tyler Durden
6:59 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
You Murphy folks seem to be working from the same talking points. I especially note the 'projection' tactic: "sensible gun safety regulations". By using phrases like that you try to box the reader into a position of not being 'sensible' if they do not agree with you.
Seems like a coordinated propaganda campaign by the Democrats.